But you know, just because you're hanging out with a weird group - they could have set him up, and he could have had no idea what was going on that day. By the end of the year, however, she was ready to travel from Texas to become a student. And I realize that I'm kind of cold about it, so how do I tell them? There were times when we didn't have milk to drink. Wish there were more, by the family of Lee. She came to New Orleans to give the discussion and promote her book, Me and Lee: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee Harvey Oswald. Audience members received a book with their ticket purchase, and Baker signed copies throughout the day. Dixie DeaApril 28, 2004 in JFK Assassination Debate. ___________________________________________, Reminds me of Elvis Costello's song "Watching The Detectives.". Oct. 19, 2013 at Loyola University in New Orleans. She sat us down, with my stepbrother, and started to explain who our father was- that it wasn't Kenneth - and who Lee was and what he had done. Porter stands at a height of 5 ft 5 in (Approx. I did not call in the middle of the night however and I did not say I wished to sing my song to her. So I said, O.K., this is it. Mrs. Nope. In one test (conducted by CBS News), 13 people were able to duplicate his shots. Four of those people had never fired the Mannlicher Carbiner Suddenly a widow at age 22, with two young children to raise, Marina Oswald seemed overwhelmed by the media maelstrom enveloping her. I know some people can remember vividly like it was yesterday, but I don't do that -- even about yesterday. Rachel felt differently. I was really supportive. Click "Submit" to let the Reveille's student journalists know. Before the year came to a close, the churchs leaders would invite Oswald to Ann Arbor and offer to host her while she studied at U-M. We stayed with her for the summer. Got a question? I try to hold that in the back of my head. Now, the word father does mean Lee to me, But dad is Dad. She remains protective of her privacy, distancing herself and her sons, ages 6 and 3, from the oddball clique of assassination cultists who have dogged the Oswald women -- Marina, now 53, June, and Rachel, 31 -- ever since the events of Nov. 22, 1963. "Having seen Marguerite Oswald's son murdered before my eyes, I dreaded intruding upon his mother's grief," Huffaker wrote. For many years, the widow has avoided cameras while she tries to live a quiet life in Rockwall, northeast of Dallas. Q: Over the years, you've kept a pretty low profile. There was a bill passed at the end of the Bush Administration that required all Government agencies to review their files for any information related to the assassination and to release it - unless they felt there were matters of national security or a couple of other issues. Send her back to Texas and if she felt any sorrow at all for the horrible thing her husband did to Jackie and all of the decent citizens of the United States, she would go back to Russia (where she belongs), said a writer from the Upper Peninsula. And they say: "Oh, we can take pictures? He tracked me down. If someone has it, I would also like to read it again. See for example this thread and interview: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=659, http://www.jfkresearch.com/marina/marina.htm. The next memory I actually have is in second grade. Like she did a movie and it involved me and Rachel, and she didn't tell us first. I have no job or income. A few months later the young family moved back to the United States. Moreover, Porter gave birth to her daughter, June Lee, on February 15, 1962. It was hilarious. Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald is the second daughter of Porter and her first husband Lee Harvey Oswald. For years, the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald has avoided cameras while she tries to live a quiet life in Rockwall, northeast of Dallas. But earlier th See, this is the difference. It's not a matter of being ashamed, it's a matter of wanting to be judged as June Oswald and not "the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald.". The other thing is, you just worry genealogically. I move all the way up there, and his parents wouldn't even let us stay in his house because I was the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. When the Session convened within a week of Oswalds arrival, half its members upset and embarrassed about being left in the dark were angry to the point of wanting to reprimand the church leadership. The public was prohibited from Rose Hill Cemetery, and no friends or other relatives showed up. Given everything above, you'd probably expect his return to be announced by dozens of men in dark glasses bundling him out the airport and into a mobile interrogation chamber. He shared what it was like for First Presbyterian to have been in the spotlight helping Oswald and of the letters that arrived on his desk. He beat my mother. Q: Did you see the "Seinfeld" episode in which they're at the ballpark, and they get spat upon, and-. Six weeks Q: How are things between you and your mom these days? You try to be nice because you don't want to make somebody upset who's going to seek you out if they're kooky enough to do that stuff anyway. Q: But are you comfortable with the fact that Lee Oswald played at least some role? At U-M, she would join 29 international students from Mexico, Israel, Greece, the Dominican Republic and elsewhere hoping to improve their English. I don't think that's true. Why have you started to speak out?A: Well, there was a lot of misinformation being released related to a book, "Case Closed," by Gerald Posner. There are a lot of assassination buffs who have analyzed all the technical data and the other available material and even they don't agree about what happened. Rachel loved listening to that. So she became sort of a tourist attraction.Q: Your childhood doesn't sound like it was easy.A: Mom kept us together. For years, the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald has avoided cameras while she tries to live a quiet life in Rockwall, northeast of Dallas. A: I don't have any real memories of those ages. She hadn't read it. It made no mention of his brothers infamous place in history. She seemed without grief, filled instead with outrageicy, edgy, and spoiling to argue. The Michigan Daily published a special edition with news of President Kennedy's assassination. Q: Do you worry about telling your children as they grow up?A: I do. During college, Rachel supported herself at the Texas Chili Parlor in Austin. Since I hadn't gotten a response, I toyed with the idea that I might have to go public. Standing outside the North University Building (located roughly near todays Biological Sciences Building), Oswald agreed to be photographed. She mentioned that newspapers have never covered her story. And they say: "Oh, we can take pictures? Oswalds wife Marina, two daughters, brother Robert and mother Marguerite were the only mourners. Your Privacy Rights It was her meetings with the Warren Commission, as well interviews with the FBI, that prevented Oswald from coming to Ann Arbor in 1964. Your email address will not be published. He wasn't much of a husband, he wasn't much of a father. Porter is 81 years old. Q: I guess you must be encouraged that the review board was finally sworn in last year.A: Yes, I'm also very excited about that. I didn't really want to be the center of gossip in this whole building. So I sat across the hall in a time-out room. But it was so funny because Mom talked to them for -- I mean, nobody noticed that the date wasn't there! She looks just like her father, with her mother's eyes. It's right across from the Capitol, and she was a waitress. So this little boy she was going with, his parents were going to come get her and they were going to go to the dance. I believe he's the first writer-researcher to get interviews with sources in the Russian Government and so this is an opportunity to shed new light on the subject from an area that has never been explored in any meaningful depth. We visited the set of "JFK" when it was going on, and somebody said, "Your father was a hero." I always feel torn by whether I'm required to tell somebody about my history. It sounds as if most people are not aware you're Lee Oswald's daughter. They first met last April in Washington. A: It has put certain strain on it. Q: When were you actually told about your father and the assassination? And she recalls her childhood as a "pretty happy" time, thanks in large part to her stepfather. Later that year the family moved from Russia to the United States. But see, I'm matter-of-fact about a lot in my life. Well, there's a travel guide she found out about that actually listed the Texas Chili Parlor and said the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald worked there. On November 25, 1963, the nations gaze was transfixed by the horse-drawn caisson and final burial of President John F. Kennedy. The minister, the Rev. Q: Tell me about growing up in the aftermath of the assassination. Rachel loved listening to that. Baker, who said she was a trained nurse, referred to the plot as a cancer research project. They first met last April in Washington. It would seem a perfect fit for Oswald. But it was so funny because Mom talked to them for - I mean, nobody noticed that the date wasn't there! A week later, Campbell met with his congregation and explained the executive committees thinking. ), When commission members presented her with paperwork written in English by her husband, she recognized his handwriting but did not comprehend the words. I see Lee. She later moved to Minsk to live with her uncle Ilya Prusakov, a colonel in the Soviet Ministry of Internal Affairs, and to study pharmacy. He was 99. But earlier this month, the Daily Mirror, the So he moved to Boston and wanted me to join him. Please get her away from Michigan. Q: What are your thoughts on Norman Mailer's new book? And they got my mother on television in a live interview -- she still doesn't have a good grasp of the language -- and they were asking her specific questions about this book. June is quieter about her own marriage, which ended in 1992. Moreover, Porter still lives with her second husband Kenneth, however in private, and is afraid to go out in public. Do I need to be more compassionate' about it? He encouraged First Presbyterian members to maintain a vital balance between personal religion and constructive involvement in the ongoing life of the world.. Moreover, she lived there with her mother and stepfather until 1957. I can't imagine the burden they've carried over the years, but I hope they have found some peace in their lives. Very interesting. A few men sent letters to the ELI office in hopes of striking up a romantic relationship with Oswald. Its the first time weve seen pictures of her in about 20 years. I always feel torn by whether I'm required to tell somebody about my history. And more: "There were some violent scenes. On February 15, 1962 their daughter, June Lee Oswald, was born. (June has requested that her married name, which she still uses in business, not be printed. Obviously, if I'd wanted to share that I would have told everyone a long time ago. Are they going to take after some ancestor we don't even know? I said I appreciate it, but I really don't get involved in that. I don't blame him for not being here for me. His writing has been published byThe New Yorker, The New York Times, The New Republicand many others. Saunders, who came as an observer, was asked by Marguerite to officiate. A: Part of it was the big anniversary, the 30th. The first car was The National Enquirer. She believes that her phones are tapped by the Secret Service and the Secret Service wants to kill her. Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions. I know you were just a toddler, but do you have any recollections of turbulence in the household? The law said that if they felt that way, then those documents needed to be turned over to the Assassination Records Review Board and those folks would review the records and either concur, release them in blacked out state or release them entirely. A: Yes and no. If they could prove somehow that he was innocent, he'd still not be a hero, he'd be a martyr. (Other than Russian, I dont know any other language, she testified. Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald - Everything You Wanted To Know About Lee Harvey Oswald's Daughter - Ned Hardy Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald was born on In addition, Porter was under Secret Service protection until she finished giving testimony before the Warren Commission. Oct. 19, 2013 at Loyola University in New Orleans. Whom do you really think of as dad?A: Kenneth. She was pretty strong. Marina Oswald Porter was the Soviet-American widow of Lee Harvey Oswald. She wanted to know Lee; she wants Lee to be a saint. It was one of many strange, discordant reactions that led many to question her sanity in the days and years aheadand to find the likely source of many of her sons problems. Complicating her situation was that Oswald spoke very little English, was jobless and feared being returned to Russia. If you are willing to consider me to become your companion, I shall give you my best to make you happy and pull you out of the morass of bitterness, came an offer from Bangalore. She has always felt really bogged down by it. Because some people have called me and said, "I knew your father and he really loved you." The _________________________________________. 1.65 m). Tags: Assassination, Conspiracy, JFK, Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald, Marina Oswald, Television, L.D.C. Yet the CIA never questioned him. Lee Harvey Oswald was the assassin of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Marina Oswald remarried, had a son, and continues to live in Texas. Her two daughters fathered by Lee Oswald grew up to be attractive ladies and ar To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them. In her early years, grocery shopping Mark Porter is the son of Porter together with her second husband Kenneth Jess Porter. She however remarried two years after Oswalds murder. (Oswald declined all financial offers.). I'm a strong woman, but I don't know if I could've kept myself together. I didn't really want to be the center of gossip in this whole building. She managed to evade the media upon arriving (She slipped into our community at night by train while a battery of reporters were waiting hawkishly at the airport, Campbell said), but photographers were waiting when she stepped onto campus the morning of January 5 for ELI orientation. During her talk, Baker criticized newspaper reports that she said inaccurately portrayed Oswald as a mentally unstable communist. Just out of the blue. They said it would depreciate the value of their home. Together, they had a son Mark Porter. Because Marina Oswald realized that she and her children could become the focus of attention at any time, she made sure June and Rachel were always neatly dressed -- no matter how small the chore, and despite the fact that the family was often financially strapped. But I don't remember that. We visited the set of "J.F.K." Investigators searched his home and found this photograph of him standing in his backyard. She didn't feel like Kenneth was her dad. But she did. However, she was not implicated in the assassination but testified against Oswald during the Warren Commission hearings. He challenged his church the oldest in Ann Arbor to be politically and socially relevant.. A: Well, there was a lot of misinformation being released related to a book, "Case Closed," by Gerald Posner. Where is your respect for President Kennedy?. Marina and the 2 girls moved forward as Marina re- married and both girls grew up. They were born in 1960 and 1962one was named June Oswald. Lee Harvey Oswald and Marina Oswald in 1963, as they prepared to leave Russia for the United States. Please tell a good story, she told reporters. A: I've never publicly said one way or the other for sure. ", Under the watch of the Secret Service, the grieving widow and her children stayed with Marguerite at the Inn of the Six Flags Motel outside Dallas. It might not have told us very much about the assassination of JFK but it provides an excellent insight into what it must be like to be the child of a much hated historical figure. The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. She no longer had reason to doubt her grandiose visions, her place in history. Porter married Oswald during his temporary defection to the Soviet Union and emigrated to the United States with him. Marina Oswald with children June and Rachel. As she told the Warren Commission during her three days of combative testimony, "It is no crime to sell the pictures. But anonymity exacted a curious price of its own, as June faced myriad graceless references to her father, mother and family. When the executive committee of the church governing body, known as the Session, reached out to Oswald in late 1963, it had done so in secret in order that Mrs. Oswald might be free from the pressure of publicity in considering the offer. Its members never informed the Session or any other congregant of the invitation, or of Oswalds acceptance. Those who insist that the church should not become embroiled are really pressing for an irrelevant church, he preached. Dr. Ernest T. Campbell, welcomed the idea as the one thing we might do to partially redeem the tragedy.. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. And I realize that I'm kind of cold about it, so how do I tell them? ", There was no expression of remorse, no regret, only an unceasing drive to carry on, fight on, despite the abandonment of her family and friends. A: It's only in recent years that I've started to get into all that, mostly as part trying to get the records released. What do I tell them? She copied it and put it on all my staff's desks. So I called my staff in, a group of 10 or so, and I said: "Yes, that is me in the article. I said in effect to each person who criticized, The one thing you havent shown us is that what we have done is unlike Christ., Sources: English Language Institute records; First Presbyterian Church (Ann Arbor) records; and Harlan Henthorne Hatcher Papers, all at the Bentley Historical Library; A history, the First Presbyterian Church of Ann Arbor, Michigan, 1826-1988: incorporating A sesquicentennial history 1976, newly revised and updated, editors Lila Miller, Robert M. Warner, Carl R. Geider; Warren Commission Report and Hearings; Follow Me, by Ernest T. Campbell. She sat us down, with my stepbrother, and started to explain who our father was -- that it wasn't Kenneth -- and who Lee was and what he had done. I want to make sure they understand why I'm so matter-of-fact about it. Additionally, Porter told the commission she believed her husband was guilty of shooting President Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963. I found this on page 182 of the forum, well worth a read. Fitzgerald, JFK Novelist is proudly powered by, In thriller novel SAVING JACKIE K "Everything in my novel is true, except the stuff I made up. People sent us money following the assassination, because Mom was young with two small children and didn't speak the language. She discovered his true identity while sifting through newspaper clippings and mementos in the attic. And I'll tell you why: It could come up at any minute. Are you able to maintain the same detachment when you see that?A: The first time I saw it I was very upset, but it gets to the point where it almost becomes unreal, this movie you're watching that has very little to do with you as a person. They lived their lives as best as possible. Under the shadow of the stigma. That Lee Harvey Oswald killed Officer Tippit and President Kennedy! Mar A: Mom kept us together. Images of John F. Kennedys assassination hold a permanent place in the American consciousness. According to the story, Rachel was a miserable, lonely child - her dogs had been The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. I've wondered what my kids are going to turn out like. We always used my stepfather's name, Porter, growing up, even though we were never legally adopted. The law said that if they felt that way, then those documents needed to be turned over to the Assassination Records Review Board and those folks would review the records and either concur, release them in blacked-out state or release them entirely. And there have been public hearings there and in Dallas and Boston. when it was going on, and somebody said, "Your father was a hero." One would think they would be more anxious to try to, clear his name. Marguerite Oswald had a series of bizarre reactions to her sons transgression, forever making her a famous mother to history. And we got to President Kennedy and I was told to go across the hall during that one. Now, Mom does articles that she doesn't bother to tell me she's doing, and sometimes my name comes up. And we got to President Kennedy and I was told to go across the hall during that one. Her combative attitude never wavered. Social justice drove Campbell, and he urged worshippers to engage with the world to right its wrongs. 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